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Mike |
March 26, 2004 - 00:31 |
| While at the Bay Hill Tournament I
talked to Butch Harmon. Introducing myself and reminding him of the
impersonator incident that was placed here in my Guest Book. He assured me that he had nothing to do with the stupid statement and again apologized for the incident. I told him that we did not think he had anything to do with it, but felt we should personally say this. He thanked me for doing this and said he would like to evaluate the Master Groover as I had suggested. The results will be posted here when this has been done. This was while Butch was on the Practice Area with Tiger. He returned to say, "Thank you for presenting the facts personally." I met many Golf enthusiasts who had overheard our chat and asked me questions, I gave them the web site and phone number and have had more phone sales. It is nice to know that when presented with the facts that Golfers realize that unless you are able to continually repeat exactly the same swing (whatever swing that is), you will never perfect or keep it! We believe that after all the tests the Master Groover has passed, that it proved it has no equal in Swing Teaching. No other Training Aid does so easily prove that it clearly outperforms any PGA Instructor, by always and permanently providing the proven correct swing performance to the Golfer as only the Master Groover DOES THAT! All our tests with the PGA have completely and quite clearly PROOVED : That ONLY a Master Groover provides the Lifetime Swing Perfection all Golfers seek. Nothing else continuously provides all the helpful Golf Swing Benefits Permanently! The bottom line? Instructors only tell you how to swing, then of course it's up to you to do it if you can. Wheras, the Master Groover can and will keep you doing it for all of your Golfing life! That is NOW a totally proven and completely undisputable FACT! |
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Mike |
January 21, 2004 - 18:44 |
| This is a copy of an email sent to my
Webmaster that includes a copy of the e-mail I sent and the reply I
recieved from the Butch Harmon Organisation. The email was recieved after a phone call from Matt Kepler a Butch Harmon representative .................. Martin, this e-mail I forward is exactly as recieved from the Butch Harmon organisation after Matt Keppler phoned me. He had said, "No one at the Butch Harmon Organisation had anything to do with that scurrilous defamation in the message posted in the Master Groover Guest Book. He has now followed up our conversation with this e-mail, (Shown below). After my talk with Matt the Harmon representative, I now think the source of the postee (clearly intended to harm Master Groover Sales by lies and blatant outright defamation, may have originated from a disgruntled FGI'er, who dislikes the true competition that the arrival of the Master Groover clearly presents with its never before possible capabillities. As these unique capabilities now threatens everyones previously easily acquired income from whatever form of Swing instruction stuff they've been selling to most Golfers. Only because Golfers have never had any provable way to make a truly provable comparison between any of the many Forms of offered Golf Instruction until now! I hope Justin Posts the full contents of this e-mail on FGI for all to see. To show those who may doubt Profeel Golf International's Integrity and make them realize that the Master Groover is in fact not just another piece of junk, as quite provably most other so called Swing Aids ARE, as they all soon prove to have little if any lasting value! Although they all claim to be the ultimate Swing Aid, NONE are able to permanently provide Golfers with their best whole correct swing! When in fact ONLY the Master Groover provably does that! And also quite easily proves that it does. It appears that some idiot thought that by Fraudulently using Butch Harmons E-mail Address they could destroy the good name of Pro*Feel and the integrity of the Master Groover and thereby hope to putt off anyone interested in acquiring one. As the Butch Harmon Organisation has requested. Can you identify the IT address of the offensive idiot? So we can both take the necessary steps and deal with it. Then let's hope we can continue on peacefully, unmolested by other IDIOTIC LIARS!. Please do whatever is neccessary to uncover the culprit asap! If you can not, I will ask the assistance of the Government Authorities who monitor the Internet, to trace the person, to ensure we put an end to this dispicable issue and fully expose and deal with the culprit, (the person/s actually responsible; we have narrowed down to living in Gilbertville, Kentucky, so if anyone knows who it is please e-mail me, because I will not let it end, I shall put the B in Jail!) Or die trying to! Will you please make the Master Groover Guest Book totally secure to prevent this low life stupidity from ever being repeated in the future. (Suggestion: We could first ask for their name address and e-mail and send them a Membership Identity Code. We will offer these Members Free Swing Help to improve their Golf Games), before allowing them access to posting? Then we'd have an instant identity record). I will post the full content of the e-mail from the Harmon Orginisation, in fact the whole of this e-mail in our Guest Book to show its readers that Profeel Golf International can be completely trusted and relied on for its absolute Integrity in all matters it is involved in. As always, Yours in NO MISLEADING BS about Golf! Mike Humphrey. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Butch Harmon" To: "amanzi" Subject: RE: I n reply to Your Acusations. Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:23:01 -0800 Mr.Humphrey, I understand our IT Coordinator Matt Keppler spoke with you today. I wanted to reiterate that Mr. Harmon nor his staff have seen or tried your product at any time. Mr. Harmon does not reply to requests or e-mail on a generic basis and certainly did not take part on your web-site. We look forward to an IP address provided to us by you and your IT department so that we may get to the bottom of this. As a point in fact, Mr. Harmon was not in the office on Sunday September 28, 2003 as shown on the remarks in your guest book, nor did he take part in your guestbook at any time. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, we look forward to resolving this problem. Please e-mail Matt at Matt@butchharmon.com as soon as the IP address is available. We look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Christy Harmon The Butch Harmon School of Golf 702-777-2444 -----Original Message----- From: amanzi [mailto:profeelgolf@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:07 PM To: butch@butchharmon.com Cc: profeelgolf@hotmail.com; amanzi@gbronline.com; dcrowderw@aol.com; mirvine@speakeasy.org Subject: Re: In reply to Your Acusations. Mr. Butch Harmon I am astonished at the accusations you have made in my Guest Book at my web site www.mastergroover.com. They are slanderous and easily provable to be absolutely NOT true! I doubt that you, with all your acclaimed expertise could out-teach it and I welcome the opportunity to prove this (as I have suggested). Please apologize and retract your defamatory remarks, as this is not in the best interests of Golf, nor all those concerned. My replies to you in the Guest Book were made in all sincerity. I doubt you have a plausable excuse for your rediculous defamatory statements other than to put down a far superior method of learning the Golf Swing by a new method that is provably far easier,more precise and definitely more permanent than your or any other PGA Teaching Professional This was stated by Pat Rielly, the Vice President of the PGA and echoed by all the Teaching Pro's who tested it and the Chairman of Wilson Sporting Equipment, after three days of Publicly Viewed Testing of it, at PGA West. Futhermore, the PGA is also aware that when their Bio-mechanical Research Center Tested the Master Groover, (then called the Humphrey Golf Swing Tuner), that the swing it actually produces, far out-performed the swing results of all the Tour Pro's they had Tested over the past Fifteen Years. However as this was under the Control of a PGA Board! These facts were NOT allowed to be made Public. Subsequently the Research Laboritory was shut down by Dr. Dan Antonelli the Head of Research, in protest at this blatant treachery. I suggest we come to an amicable agreement before this escalates. Sincerely, Mike Humphrey profeelgolf@hotmail.com |
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Mike |
January 08, 2004 - 12:55 |
| The following is a copy of the e-mail
I sent to Butch Harmon. Date January 8 2004 Mr. Butch Harmon I am astonished at the accusations you have made in my Guest Book at my web site www.mastergroover.com. They are provably NOT true! I doubt that you could with all your claimed expertise could out-teach it and welcome the opportunity to prove this (as I have suggested). Please apologise and retract your defamatory remarks, as this is not in the best interests of Golf or all those concerned. My replies to you on the Guest Book were made in all sincerity and I doubt you have a plausable excuse for your rediculous defamatory statements other than to put down a far superior method of learning the Golf Swing by a new method that is provably far easier,more precise and definitely more permanent than your or any other PGA Teaching Professional.As stated by the Vice President of the PGA after three days of Publicly Testing it. Hundreds there agreed. Futhermore, the PGA is also aware that when Bio-mechanically Tested by them, that the swing it produces, far out-performed the swings of all the Tour Pro's they had Tested over the past Fifteen Years. However as this was under the Control of a PGA Board these facts were NOT allowed to made Public. Subsequently the Research Laboritory was closed by Dr. Dan Antonelli the Head Researcher, AS HIS PROTEST. I suggest we come to an amicable agreement before this escalates. Sincerely Mike Humphrey profeelgolf@hotmail.com |
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M Humphrey |
September 30, 2003 - 16:59 |
| Butch Harmon, Anyone reading the derogatory statements you have made about the Master Groover would obviously be be led to believe that you have personally fully tested and evaluated it. As I don't believe you have used a Master Groover and that you honestly evaluated it. I challenge you to prove all the destructive cricisms you have made here. I believe you made them only to prevent the Master Groover from proving it easily out-teaches any PGA Teaching Pro and that includes yourself of course! To ensure that it is fairly tested and evaluated honestly I shall ask Mr. Arnold Palmer to officiate at the testing at his Orlando Golf Accademy. Mr. Palmer has the reputation of haveing the most honest Integrity of all the Golf Authorities. Even his website declares "Absolute Integrity" (as mine does and proves it). I have no doubt of the outcome and look forward to dispelling your untrue, arrogant stupid destructive defamotory remarks in person. Anyone can critique another Golfers Golf Swing and suggest corrections, but neither you or they can make them continuously repeat the suggeted corrections and you know this statement is an easily proven fact! So I accuse you of deliberately misleading your students by continuing to charge them Fees for lessons that you ensure will achieve the needed swing corrections. When you know full well that the real end result is always doubtfull and will require much continued work by the student for them to acquire their best correct Golf Swing. You also know that you can not possibly guarantee any student will be able to permanently keep their 'lesson corrected' Golf Swing for a week, or month, or for the years they want to keep playing Golf. Without knowing about the Master Groover alternative they would just have keep paying and hopeing for some improvement. Whereas Golfers who use Master Groovers, will be always able to enjoy the Golfing rewards of keeping their best Swing and the delightful confidence that goes with it. A Luxury that only the Master Groover does actually provide. I deal in proven fact, not in imaginary swing theories that for years have been used to confuse Golfers and keep them paying so much so gullibly, because the likes of you do their utmost to prevent them from knowing the TRUTH! Believe me all Golfers will one day. Sincerely, Mike Humphrey |
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M Humphrey |
September 30, 2003 - 15:46 |
| Butch Harmon, Anyone reading the derogatory statements you have made about the Master Groover would obviously be be led to believe that you have personally fully tested and evaluated it. As I don't believe you did. I challenge you to maintain your own Integrity, and challenge you to prove all your destructive cricism. These you made, I firmly believe, only to prevent the Master Groover from proving it easily out-teaches any PGA Teaching Pro including yourself of course! To ensure that it is fairly tested and evaluated honestly I shall ask Mr. Arnold Palmer to officiate the testing. Hopefully at his Orlando Golf Accademy. Because He definitely has the reputation of haveing the most honest Integrity of all Golf Authorities. Even his website declares "Absolute Integrity" (as mine does and proves it). I have no doubt of the outcome and look forward to dispelling your untrue, arrogant stupid destructive defamotory remarks in person. Anyone can critique anothers Golf Swing and suggest corrections, but they can not make them continuously repeat those corrections and you know that this statement is a fact! So I accuse you of deliberately misleading your students by continuing to charge them Fees for lessons that you ensure will achieve the needed swing corrections. When you know full well that the real end result is doubtfull and will require much continued work by the student for their best correct Golf Swing to be acquired. You also know that you can not possibly guarantee any student will be able to permanently keep their 'lesson corrected' Golf Swing for a week, or month let alone for the years they want to keep playing Golf. Whereas any student who uses the Master Groover will quite definitely always enjoy the Golfing rewards of this luxury and the confidence that goes with it! I deal in proven fact, not in imaginary swing theories that for years been used to confuse Golfers and keep them paying so much so gullibly, because the likes of you do their utmost to prevent them from knowing the TRUTH! They will one day soon. Sincerely, Mike Humphrey |
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C. Hennessey |
September 29, 2003 - 11:44 |
| Mr.Harmon, I have been watching you give lessons for over ten years. You are only where you are because of your father and his golf teaching. The master groover is the greatest teaching tool ever to impact the golf world. When this product is marketed correctly every certifed pga teacher will use this. I have watched beginers become golfers before my eyes. This product is going to change golf forever. When it does I would like you to appoligize to Mr. Humphrey. You must swallow your pride! "This tool is going to change golf Instruction forever" Mr. Harmon I wish you could see this. Not everyone can afford golf. This tool can be put up anywhere. People of all color can begin to master their swing in a few months. I have known golfers who have been playing for years and have not gotten any better. MUSCLE MEMORY!!! Not some PGA certifed teacher with verbal instruction. Think about it! I am so shocked to see worlds best teacher say what you said! You must be out of your mind. When this tool gets marketed correctly and an investor places his trust in it. Watch out golf world. And I hope to be on the PGA tour walking down 18 and giving the mastergroover the credit! Mr. Harmon thank you for your time. Carter Hennessey |
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M Humphrey |
September 29, 2003 - 10:53 |
| To Butch Harmon Assuming you may be able to tell students what to do before each swing and what they did or should have done after each swing? But you can not teach them during each swing. While the Master Groover can! If you used it to teach with, instead of attacking it, you would also be able to give your students the actual positive corrections during each and every swing and enjoy a lot more success than you do now and that's the Truth! Without its help you and they are stuck in the, "Keep trying to do it this way" and for many years that teaching method has not made much improvement in most Golfers in spite of all the improvements in playing equipment or Course Maintenance. The reason is simple. Before the arrival of the Master Groover all Golfers had to remember what to do and most Golfers know that Golf Lessons seldom lasts long anyway as their bad habits usually return. Whereas now, the Master Groover will always remind them exactly how to swing and keep their swing precise, long after your lessons become a vague memory. That fact in itself, is worth more than a dozen of your costly lessons and a lot less expensive to boot! The Master Groover was developed to help improve Golfer use it and you will have better results and stop being so upset, it is after all a huge improvement on past teaching methods and Provably so! Mike Humphrey |
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M Humphrey |
September 28, 2003 - 20:06 |
| To Butch Harmon I will see you in Court. a, The Master Groover is made of the finest materials. b, It will out teach you and any other Swing Instructor. c, You cannot make anyone exactly repeat the same correct swing every day they practice the Master Groover does, even years later. d, There is nothing "Flimsy" about the Master Groover. e, Defamation of a Patented Product is a serious accusation that you will have to prove. We have no record of you purchasing our Product so we are skeptical that you have used it for long enough to evaluate it. We will enjoy disproving everything you have so purposely stated in our Guestbook that can be read by the whole world. I'll back this product against your assumed expertise anytime. Mike Humphrey. |
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Butch Harmon |
September 28, 2003 - 15:42 |
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This swing trainer is not what I expected. It is made out of cheap materials and is very flimsy. I was disapointed and would not recommend this device to anyone. I have taught many greats and I make sure to keep them away from this entraption. Thanks for your time, Butch |
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Mike |
July 12, 2003 - 08:42 |
| Fellow Golfers, it is an outright
disgrace how many are able to sell JUNK to Golfers who are trying to
improve their Games.
The biggest offender is the PGA who claim its Members are the ultimate in Golf Instruction and knows from its own Testing that they can NOT Teach anywhere near as well or as positively as the Master Groover DOES! I guarantee this, everything that is claimed in regard to the Master Groover is TRUE PROVABLE FACT and no 'tampering' with the images shown has been done to 'improve' its actual visual performance. We at Pro*Feel Golf International live by and adhere to the Solid Foundations of Golfs absolute demand for Honesty and Integrity and will never allow or present any invalid claim to be made about the Master Groover's unique swing Teaching/Training and Practicing provisions. We are proud of the FACT that Nothing else and No Human can permanently out teach our Master Groover. We invite anyone who wishes to debate this claim or comment on it to leave their Message here and we will reply to it here. May your next round be your best round. Yours in Golf, Mike |
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amanzi |
February 16, 2003 - 12:24 |
| Hi all Golf enthusiasts. A Student said this to me yesterday, "Mike you know that if they wanted to they can make tyres that last as long as your car and all sorts of other stuff. It is obvious that your Master Groover gives you the right golf swing for the rest of your life. That's why the PGA doesn't want it to become well known, as anyone who has one will never need any lessons and can pick out the Golf Clubs and Balls that suit them without being told by the PGA Pro's!" I think he has hit the nail on the head! Go figgah, if you know what you can do why pay for advice that may not be correct and definitely won't make you stay playing well and anyway you still have to do all te work to find out and they never give you a guarantee do they? Because if you fail it is always your fault, never the Pro's! I hope this wakes more golfers up to the reality of this situation. Yours in no BS Golf Mike |
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amanzi |
February 10, 2003 - 17:30 |
| Thanks for the support, I hope your
friends will add their views about the Master Groover and what they saw
watching it work and decribe what it does. Sad to think that most golfers think a pro can teach them, when at best they can only suggest adjustments! The truth is you have to keep reproducing the whole swing correctly for as long as it takes for the whole swing performance to become completely automatic, because you can not build a golf swing one piece at a time! It is like learning to ride a bicycle you can't ride one until you can! The same with the golf swing, you can't perfect it until the whole swing is perfect! The Master Groover letss you learn, acquire and keep producing the exact same performance until it is perfect! No other teacher or method can make any golfer do this as quickly, positively, or as permanently and that is the simple truth. In my studied experience, the golfers who become top Tour Pro's succeeded because they wanted to and worked long and hard to get there and would have done so without any help. I say this because I have never seen any Teacher re-train a top pro and there are hundreds of them who've faded away after spending months with various top teachers. Those few who got back were never again as good because they had lost the swing they had and they were not as confident with their 'new' golf swing because they knew it could fail again! That is why the PGA tries so hard to prevent the Master Groovers progress, they can't out teach it so they try to put golfers off using it! It is about time that golfers woke up and realized that the PGA lives off golfers and needs to keep them as hackers! It would be embarrassing if suddenly a lot more golfers were better golfers than their Club Pro's and they all use a Master Groover! Hopefully that day will soon arrive and golfers will stop being ripped off! Yours in NO BS GOLF! |
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Don |
February 06, 2003 - 01:31 |
| I was introduced to the Master Groover
when I first saw it being demonstrated at a driving range. I watched a
teenage girl being instructed on the machine and from what I was told, it was the first time she had ever swung a golf club. While on the Master Groover, she was hitting the ball straight and about 150 yards with the five iron. She had the swing of a person who has played all their life. I was so impresed I bought a Master Groover for myself and have been training on it as often as I can. Don Crowder |
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WOODY |
January 30, 2003 - 20:01 |
| I met Mr. Humphry about 2 years ago
when he demonstrated the Mster Groover to me. I have been playing Golf
since childhood and to make a long story short after a month or so on
this aid my handicap went from 12 to 14 down to 4. It made me confident
enough on the golf course to serriously decide to try out for the senior
PGA school when I turn 50. I solumly attest to the Master Groover
without a doubt to the change in my game and confidence on the course. I
attest honestly, you hit exactly what you aim at, especially the pin, I
have hit several times using the lesson I learned from Mr. Humphrys
swing aid. My Phone Number is 321-984-2944 if you choose to speak to me
about my experience and teaching I got personally, please call me any
time and I will back up anything you have read about my experience. I
highly recomend you try out this swing aid because all you have to loose
is your bad swing habits and keep a lower handicap. Woody Hodnette |
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